#133 // 5-MeO-DMT and What's Really Real with Martin W. Ball

<span data-mce-type="bookmark" style="display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;" class="mce_SELRES_start"></span>Martin W. Ball joins me to discuss (and debate) what's real and what's not real AND the 5-MeO-DMT experience. http://www.martinball.net/